Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Dawkins argues for emotions-based ethics

Richard Dawkins on the speciesist attitude of homosapiens

"Human beings are not just like great apes. They are great apes.... Its a matter of the merest accident that the intermediates happen to be extinct."


Holy Pirate said...

Unless I misunderstood something... I believe that about half way through he suggests that there are some humans that it would be morally preferable to to eat before some animals.

I like bananas. Don't care much for cabbage, though.

Dana said...

Maybe we SHOULD treat animals like other sorts of people. Just think about the kind of revenue we could raise from the taxation alone!

Jason Woolever said...

Can you imagine what this would mean for marriage laws?

I honestly don't know: Can apes an humans cross-polinate?

Can you imagine taking your monkey girlfriend out for dinner and ordering people brains?

I wonder what Dawkins thought of the Planet of the Apes remake?

ZombieMonkeyChick said...

Can you imagine taking your monkey girlfriend out for dinner and ordering people brains?

mmmm... people brains.

Anonymous said...

Then there is the Great Ape Project, a UN proposal to grant "personhood" status to the great apes.

The Great Ape Project (GAP), founded in 1993, is an international organization of primatologists, psychologists, ethicists, and other experts who advocate a United Nations Declaration of the Rights of Great Apes that would confer basic legal rights on non-human great apes: chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, and orangutans. The rights suggested are the right to life, the protection of individual liberty, and the prohibition of torture. (See Declaration on Great Apes).

Some religions are less speciesist than others. While animists may believe in the equality of all sentient beings, monotheists tend to believe that human beings are superior to other lifeforms by divine intention. The teachings of Jainism, Hinduism, and Buddhism emphasize ideals such as sarva jeeva sama bhava (सर्व जीव सम भाव), that is, "all life is equal", and are examples of religions that tilt towards being less speciesist, though the extent to which this is reflected in daily life in countries where those religions are influential depends on the local culture.

I'll have to send an email to the UMC Board of Church and Society so the Social Principles can be ammended to support equal rights for the great apes in the next session of the General Conference.

And now for something totally different,

I send this link to different companies that are hiring H1-B Visa employees from India and China to do computer software programming. This firm trains great apes in the latest computer languages and software engineering methods. The tasks can be done in the US far cheaper than offshore.

"What are the legalities regarding intellectual property?

Great apes (hominids) are capable of maintaining source code and creating original works, such as original source code and reports. When Primate Programming first came into existence, the law was vague on who owned the intellectual property (IP) rights to primate-generated works.

These intellectual property have been largely resolved. There are bills coming for floor vote in the House and Senate that give provisional US citizenship bill for hominids. This legislation will resolve all Primate Programming IP issues shortly. "

Other apes have been trained to play poker and Texas Hold'Em. I don't know what to think about this except in my understanding gambling is a sin.

Quit monkeying around and get back to serious issues.

John Flores
Frisco, Texas

Anonymous said...

Don't forget the recent discovery of hobbits!

They were found on the Indonesian Island of Flores. The species is known as homo floresiensis.

I refuse to believe that I envolved from some hobbit in Indonesia!

Perhaps most fascinating of all, the research team learned of local stories on Flores that suggested the "little people" may have existed on the island right up to the 16th century when Dutch traders arrived in the "Spice Islands". Even though Professor Roberts, with Dr Chris Turney and Kira Westaway, at the University of Wollongong, have used radiocarbon and luminescence dating techniques to establish that the most recent fossil remains in the cave are 13,000 years old, the team has not ruled the possibility that the hobbit sized humans could have survived until relatively recently.

Imagine that! The Hobbits could have the First Dutch Reformed Church of the Shire.

John Flores
Frisco, Texas

JD said...

OK, I read some of you guy's comments to a co-worker...let's just say, she was afraid, very afraid.

See what comes out of us when we have spent the better part of the week debating moral relativism, religious pluralism, and Gavin's butt?


Larry B said...

Has anyone actually read his latest book (the God Delusion)?

I'm beginning to think it's a more apt title for his autobiography.....

Jason Woolever said...

Gavin's butt has gained an increasing amount of popularity on the web, there's no denying it.

What might Dawkins say about it?

Larry B, I think you're probably right about Dawkins!