Sunday, December 03, 2006


I will be out of blogging range for the next day or two. The Bishop asked some of the clergy in our conference to attend a training summit with Diana Butler Bass. I'm looking forward to learning what she has to teach us. See you Tuesday or Wednesday.


Anonymous said...

I lament for any fundamentalist or fundamental church that does not practicipate to their views of biblical seperation and view that the office of pastor should be a male.

However I understand the position and adhere to it as prescribed in the 2000 Baptist Faith and Message.

Here we stand in our witness in the name of Jesus Christ,

John Flores
Frisco, Texas

gavin richardson said...

two things..

do report back on what dbb has to say. i just loved "the practicing congregation" and wish all congregations would read that book.

i think john is on the wrong comment string

Anonymous said...


I'm not.

1) Most Southern Baptists /fundamental / and fundametalist don't accept women as pastors or teachers. So we would not participate in this.

2) Most Southern Baptists have a great respect for the early church, the early church fathers, and the first few eccumenical councils. Most have a studied Luther, Calvin, and Wesley. Many are teaching prayer and fasting.

3) As a Southern Baptist who was a Roman Catholic who on worships regularly with United Methodists my theology adapts in truth and love.

4)Southern Baptists practice "cooperation with compromise" as opposed to the Northern (American) Baptists (ie. think Dr. Martin Luther King).

I believe in the purpose of the conference. Yet I uphold my church's stand on why we will not participate.

It is these cases that are tough and painful. All I ask is that you accept us for being true to our witness even if it is not your way.

John Flores
Frisco, Texas

Jason is my friend and brother in Christ. We share a common faith in Jesus Christ, share different theology, but I continue to learn from his witness, and I would not have it any other way.

Jason Woolever said...

Hey Gavin,
As JD commented to John Flores on another post here,
Sometimes I read Jason's posts just to see what YOU have to say. Oh, did I actually write that down? HI, JASON :)
While I was at this summit another friend of mine who sometimes reads my blog said, "Man, that John Flores guy can find some amazing things on the internet," or something to that effect.

Anonymous said...


Sometimes I go into a bookstore and within five minutes find the most obscure outrageous topics..
sometimes my wife just walks me over to the computer books and chooses something for me to look at until see buys a gift or card. Checks and balances, we all need them.

Keep the faith,

John Flores
Frisco, Texas

Jason Woolever said...

you're cool man. its good to have you around John!